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  • #49664 Reply
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    Al

    Hi I have a question about a car lease order. In March I signed a vehicle order form for a car leasing company to source and arrange finance for a car. In this agreement it states that if I cancel I must pay £1,500. The initial rental is only £1,100. I find £1,500 an unfair price.

    I have still had no notification of a build date for my car and my ETA was for 15th October, which is now just over a month away.

    Is there any way I can get out of paying the £1500 fee ?

    Or any other advice.
    Thanks

  • #49674 Reply
    Stuart Masson
    Stuart Masson
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    Hi Al. Well, you signed the agreement six months ago, so it’s a bit late to complain about the cancellation fee now. If you don’t like what’s being offered, don’t sign.

    In terms of whether you can cancel the agreement and not have to pay any cancellation fee, it would depend on what the agreement said in terms of delivery time. If there was an estimated delivery date, then they are obliged to deliver within a certain period of time from that date (usually 28 days). If they don’t deliver within the written window, you can walk away and are entitled to any deposit back.

    If you kick up a fuss to the leasing company, they will usually drop the cancellation fee, especially if the car is late.

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      Louise

      Hi
      I went to an Audi Garage to look at the cars before getting a lease. I went for a testdrive in the car I wanted and asked the Salesman what colour the car was-to which he replied Nano Grey. I wrote this down and went to a leasing company to order the car I wanted and that colour. Signed all paperwork. It went through a different Audi Garage and I got delivery of my vehicle. Wrong colour! It is Nano Grey but the but not the Grey of the car I had the testdrive in. The Salesman has told me the wrong colour! I’ve now got a lease car for 3 years in a colour I don’t want. I spoke to Audi to say I didn’t want to sign for the car when it was delivered but they said ‘Our driver needs to get back-see how it goes for a couple of weeks.’ I have been emailing them and they say as they fulfilled the order I asked for-they would charge me around £3000 to come out of my lease and get the correct colour car. I’ve asked them if they would just do a like-for-like swap and send me a black car instead as an option but they say they won’t. Where do I go from here? If the Audi Salesman on the testdrive had told me the correct colour-I wouldn’t have this problem. I’ve had the car since 2nd June.

    • #90354 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Louise. The leasing company could not care less about what an Audi salesman may or may not have told you. All they will care about is what is in the contract, and you ordered a Nano Grey car. They are not going to change it now.

      The Audi dealership is not going to care that they may have given you incorrect information since you didn’t buy the car from them anyway, so you are not their customer and therefore not their problem.

      I guess you learn to love Nano Grey, or get it wrapped in another colour (which will cost you a considerable amount of money).

  • #49845 Reply
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    Al

    Hi Stuart

    Thanks for getting back to me. My reason for now not wanting to lease a car is my circumstances have changed.

    I have not yet handed over any deposit. This is due once the car is delivered.

    At the moment I have only signed an agreement for the leasing company to source a vehicle and finance for me. There has been no formal agreement as to timescale for delivery- just an expected delivery date.

  • #49846 Reply
    Stuart Masson
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    If you’ve not given them any money, they will struggle to take any off you. You would need to check your paperwork to find out exactly how and when any fees would fall due.

  • #49870 Reply
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    Al

    Hi Stuart

    The paperwork is very little, basically one sheet of paper detailing the car, proposed monthly payments. The part about cancellation fee states that by signing I have entered into a agency and supply contract (for them to source a vehicle and arrange finance) and that cancellation incurs a fee of £1500. Presumably this is for their costs incurred for sourcing me a vehicle/ finance offer. My issue is I think this is a high figure.

  • #51974 Reply
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    Jack

    Hi iv recently gone to buy a car, iv signed an order form for the car to be delivered and to find finance, the finance have declined and asked for a guarantor. Iv recently changed my mind about the car due to finding a better deal can I cancel? Iv not provided a guarantor.

  • #52114 Reply
    Stuart Masson
    Stuart Masson
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    You should be able to cancel the order and get any deposit back as you have been declined finance. If the contract cannot be completed then it is void.

    Bear in mind that if you have been declined finance by one car finance company, there is a good chance you will be declined finance again by another car finance company.

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      Jack

      Thanks Stuart

  • #66646 Reply
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    Marie

    Hi Stuart,

    I am in a situation in which order was signed that had a delivery date binding validity of the order (ie. “unless delivery exceeds the above estimated date without your consent”). I had complained extensively about the delivery date and when they finally provide a proposed finance agreement it was 5 business days from a delivery date falling on a Sunday. They also stated that they would delivery the car 7-10 days after the signed agreement was received. I signed the agreement but it was rejected multiple times saying there were mistakes int he way the forms were filled. After two weeks of filling forms and sending first class next day delivery (they would not accept electronic copies, which they were happy to do for their binding order form) I finally decided to cancel the order all together. Now they are telling me that I owe a total of £780 (180 document fee+ 2 months of rental). They are also advising me that the Consumer laws won’t apply to this order because they are not applying the fees to a finance agreement…do you have any advise please?

    • #66647 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Marie. Leasing rules are different to those for HP and PCP finance agreements, so you will need to check your contract for specific clauses about cancellation fees.

      If the finance agreement was never accepted, I can’t see how they can charge you for two months’ rental. Or was it finally accepted and then you cancelled?

      By the sound of everything in your explanation, you should be able to avoid the fees if you kick up enough of a fuss with the finance company. Was the order placed at a franchised dealer or via a broker?

  • #66654 Reply
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    Marie

    Dear Stuart, thank you for your quick response,

    This was an online broker who actually never ordered the car. they asked me to substitute the car I had chosen with an upgrade (they had in stock) to try and shorten the delivery.

    there was no proper contract signed. I only signed the quote (the precise title is Personal Contract Hire Quotation) and the order form which has a clause (titled Quotation Acceptance / Vehicle Order) with this verbiage ‘I/we understand that by signing this form, I/we agree to order and accept delivery of the above vehicle/s under the terms specified once a

    credit line has been established. I/we may be liable for a cancellation fee which is equivalent to the value of the initial rental should I/we

    choose to cancel the order unless, delivery exceeds the above estimated date without your consent. This is not a credit agreement and all

    proposals will be subject to acceptance by credit underwriters. Plan will endeavour to adhere to the required delivery date and relay delivery

    information to me as provided by the manufacturer, although no guarantee can be given.’

    They are not working with me except offering a discounted cancellation fee (£500) if I pay by 15th of July. This alone makes me kind of wonder about the validity of this charge. Grateful for any advice you will provide. Marie

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    Marie

    Thank you very much Stuart! I will give it a shot :) Have a great weekend!

  • #66875 Reply
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    CarrieH

    Hi Stuart, I’m hoping you can advise me on a similar predicament I’m currently in with a leasing company.

    I ordered a car for an 18 month lease, 18 monthly payments with no deposit on the 9th June of this year. I was advised at the time that it was expected by late July or early August. I had to hand back my company car at the end of June so prepared myself to be car-less for a month. I paid the £200 admin fee and returned my order form.

    However, when I chased for updates on the order, the estimated delivery date became later and later, and eventually was confirmed to arrive in the UK 7th October, with delivery to me expected around the 14th. At this point I asked if I could swap my order slot with someone else, or take a stock car, but was told this was not an option.

    My company have since introduced a great deal in their car scheme, which I’d like to change to, as I’ve lost all faith in the leasing company.

    Today I advised that I would like to cancel my order and requested that they pay me back my administration fee as they could not provide the car within the one month time frame that was promised (wording on my order form is below)

    SUBJECT TO
    I/We hereby agree to accept delivery of the above vehicle, within one month of the requested delivery date, subject to availability and satisfactory completion of finance documentation.
    I/We fully understand that the terms and conditions set out below are subject to revision due to either, “National Vehicle Solutions” being unable to obtain the above vehicle at the figure upon which their quotation has been based, or should there be an increase in funding and/or manufacturing price increase/charges beyond “National Vehicle Solutions ” control. I/We shall have the option to cancel in this case and any monies paid will be refunded.
    By signing this form you are entering into an Agency Contract (for the supply of services) and a Supply Contract (for the supply of goods). National Vehicle Solutions will act on your behalf to source the vehicle(s) as described as above. You will not have the right (under Distance Selling Regulations) to cancel the Agency Contract once we have begun to source the vehicle(s).
    In the event of me/us canceling this order for any reason, other than stated or failing to take delivery within the specified period I/We shall be liable to pay a cancellation fee of £ 500.00 to “National Vehicle Solutions “. In the event of National Vehicle Solutions “” being unable to obtain the vehicle then “National Vehicle Solutions” will not be responsible for any losses you may have incurred.

    They have come back to say they now may be able to get a stock car (someone else’s cancelled order) which matches my very standard spec, and that if I choose to cancel I have to pay £500 as they will be able to deliver the car before the “one month” runs out (end of September). But it seems so unfair that this option was only given to me when I asked to cancel, and was denied before!

    I then asked if I could transfer the contract to my sister as an alternative, at which point they said that the rates had gone up and she’d have to pay more (including a £1,200 deposit!). So I went back to say I don’t need the admin fee back, but I cannot and will not pay the £500 cancellation fee. They said they will continue to source a stock car for me until I give firm notice of my cancellation in writing.

    I have lost all trust in the company and want to give my notice of cancellation in writing, but am scared that they can forcibly take the £500 (my bank details were on my finance approval documents) or sue me for losses. Another part of me thinks that they are just expecting me to back down and pay it, and probably wouldn’t really take legal action if it came to it.

    I commute 25 miles each way for work and am now in a position where I will need to buy something very soon to fill the gap, as I’ve been unexpectedly left without any car, which has caused me a lot of expense and inconvenience. Had they delivered the car when they said they would I wouldn’t have cancelled, but now I have no interest in taking the car or having any further dealings with this company.

    Do you have any suggestions as to what my rights are and how I should proceed?

    Many thanks in advance!

  • #66876 Reply
    Stuart Masson
    Stuart Masson
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    Hi Carrie. I think you should be able to stick to your guns and hold them to their own contract. Car not supplied as per contract = refund. You will probably have to fight them hard to get what you are owed, but they would hold you to a contract if it was in their favour.

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    CarrieH

    Thanks Stuart.

    The thing is that they’re now saying they can get me another build slot which will come by the end of September, which in their view is within the one month time slot. But they haven’t confirmed a date for me… yet. So should I go ahead and click cancel, and hope that they won’t take me to court? Should I push for my £200 admin fee back as well?

    Thanks again, I appreciate your advice

    Carrie

    • #66878 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Ultimately you can only be guided by what your contract says, since that is what you and they are bound by. For specific legal advice, you could try legalbeagles.info or seek your own legal counsel.

      The purpose of the law is to prevent a company keeping a customer on a hook when they can’t supply a car. If a better deal comes along elsewhere 5 minutes after you sign a contract and you want to change your mind, that’s bad luck.

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    Glenn

    Hi Stuart,

    I was wondering if you could advise me on a similar situation – I found an on-line quote I wanted to take up so contacted the leasing company and completed a contract. However, within a couple of days of placing the order my circumstances changed and I wanted to cancel the order.

    As far as I was aware, there is a grace period for any contracts made on-line. I was able to successfully cancel my order but I have been informed I must pay a cancellation fee. This is supposedly to cover the agent’s expenses incurred in securing a vehicle for me.

    Am I legally obliged to pay the cancellation fee or does the grace period for cancelling the contract mean that I do not have to pay it?

    Thanks, Glenn

    • #86750 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Glenn. My understanding is that you should have 14 days after the goods are delivered (so 14 days after taking delivery of your car) as a cooling-off period. Have a read of the Consumer Contract Regulations, or visit Legal Beagles and check out their forum, which specialises in consumer legal advice.

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      George

      Just been through the same thing sign a finance agreement with fords main dealer put a deposit now in a second hand car.
      Phone them 5 days later an wanted To cancel .they said I can’t phone up the finance company they said I cant I knew I had a 14 day cooling off period they said I don’t .
      Looking on there main web site it states you can phoned them back they said that means I can find as long as I find a different finance company to pay off the finance fords done for me .
      I knee I was 100% within my rites they only wanted to try an exceed the 14 day period but I emailed them to get the ball rolling .
      I can go on an but u defferenly have the right to cancel they ended up canceling mine

    • #87081 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi George. You’re right; just because you have a legal right to cancel the agreement, doesn’t mean the finance company will make it easy for you to do so…

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    George

    They kept insisting that the car is yours now all the legal documents arr on your name .
    There web site clearly says you have 14 day yo cancel .
    They tried to say that means you can find a company at a lower interest rate to transfer the finance .
    Thought I was stupid .

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    Kim

    Hi,my partner signed a vehicle order form 2 days ago and we got finance for hire perchase, we put down an £500 deposit, and they said the finance had gone through, but the pre contract details are different to the order form details. The cash price on the order form is £16,729 and on the pre contract finance agreement the cash price £18,258.98? Now from the original price of £16,729 even with the added extras it doesn’t add up to the £18,258. But there are other flaws in the contract for the finance, with these flaws being on the contract can I get out of getting this car? Also when I phoned the Volkswagon financial services they said I’d have to pay the £13,757.98 to get out of it which is what we was borrowing, but even that is wrong on the contract because from the beginning at £16,729 plus the extras, and minus the £1000 discount they said they was giving us doesn’t add up to £13,757.98 We should be borrowing £12,807.99, there’s a difference of £949.99 and no explanation of what that is? I hope this makes sense and you can help? Thanks

    • #87129 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Kim. Firstly, you have 14 days from contract activation to cancel the agreement, so saying you would have to pay £13,757.98 is not strictly correct. If you already have the car then you would have to come up with the cash to keep it, because cancelling the finance doesn’t cancel the vehicle order.

      In terms of the numbers not matching up as they should and not being consistent, go back to the dealership and query it. There may be a reason why it looks different or is laid out differently (particularly if there are discounts or deposit contributions involved), but they should be able to explain it clearly if it is all legit.

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    Patrick

    Hi

    Ordered an automatic 3 series m sport car under contract hire and went to collect it last night. Car wasn’t automatic and I didn’t take it off the lot but I had signed paperwork last night before they showed me the car and dealer is trying to get me to take it. Do I have a 14 day cooling off period in which to cancel the sale and credit?

  • #89958 Reply
    Stuart Masson
    Stuart Masson
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    Hi Patrick. No, you absolutely don’t have to take it. If you have documents which show you ordered a car with an automatic transmission and they have ordered a car with a manual gearbox, that’s not your problem.

    They can make any excuses they want, but if they ordered the wrong car then it’s their responsibility to fix it. Having you sign all the paperwork before showing you the car to check over is either stupid or deliberately deceptive.

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    Lindsey seatter

    Hi I ordered a lease hire car 10/2. Estimated delivery 10-12 weeks. 16 weeks later I’m still waiting with no further estimate of delivery. Contract states it may be sooner or later and to cancel is £500. Ive had no car for 4 weeks and I’m now in position it’s affecting my job
    Surely central UK vehicle leasing can’t leave it open ended with no date for delivery. There are very few updates and I’m constantly chasing. I’ve paid £180 non refundable administration fee too. What can I do? X

    • #90238 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Lindsay. Your rights will depend on what your contract states. If the leasing company is in breach of contract, then you can cancel it. If the contract is open-ended, they can keep you waiting.

      Sales contracts have specific clauses which allow a customer to cancel order if the seller does not provide the car within a certain timeframe from what is stated on the order (usually 28 days). But leases are not bound by the same laws, as you are not buying a car.

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    Caroline Monk

    Hi I ordered my Kadjar at the end of June. It was meant to be built in July and arrive by the 1st September. I then recieved an email from the dealer to say it will be built in late August and be with me mid September. Todady they contacted me to say it will be built the 9th September and arrive late sept- early octover and this still might change as in france renult close for a period of time. I am paying for the car outright and have made a 500 depisot. As my order has been changed 3 times am I in my right to cancel this if they change my date anymore. My paperword says the 1st September.

    Many thanks.

    • #94111 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Caroline. Your sales contract should have a clause in the terms and conditions which allow a customer to cancel their order if the seller does not provide the car within a certain timeframe from what is stated on the order (usually 28 days).

      The trick will be finding written proof which says that the car was due to arrive on 1 September. You said you have an email advising mid-September, but you will need written advice advising earlier than that if you want to cancel the order now. If the earliest date you have in writing is mid-September, then they basically have until mid-October to deliver the vehicle.

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      Caroline monk

      Hi Stuart,
      Thanks for your reply. I have my order form which states that the Estimated delivery date is the 1st September.
      I contacted them yesterday to say I need my car by the end of September as I am starting my own business, they have offered to lend me a car if mine hasn’t come in by then but I feel like they can take the mick and keep pushing it back. But If I have legal rights to say that the date should have been the first if it hasn’t arrived after the 28 days then I am within my rights to cancel my order. They still haven’t even answered my question as to why it has been pushed back so many times either. Thank you caroline

    • #94147 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Assuming your contract has a 28-day clause, you should be able to cancel the order if the vehicle is not delivered by 29 September.

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    Adrian

    Was wondering if you could help me 8 days ago I went to test drive a car and since filled in an application for pre approved finance on a PCH agreement with VW and then signed a this is the vehicle I’d like to order form. There was no small print just photocopied forms and was adviced that this was just to get the ball rolling and could change my mind. Since then I have changed my mind and want to keep my current car because after looking at my finances I can’t afford the car I’ve ordered. I’ve still got to sign the official finance papers a few weeks before the car arrives and the sales man is saying I can’t cancel now the car has been ordered and all he can do is defer the payments for six months but either way I’m having the car if the finance is cancelled then I have to pay for the car myself. Is there anything I can do?

    • #94501 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Adrian. If you have signed an official vehicle order form, then there is no legal right to change your mind.

      You never need to sign anything ‘to get the ball rolling’. Once you sign a contract, you are legally bound to it.

      However, in reality, there’s not a lot the Volkswagen dealer can do if you want to cancel – other than keep any deposit you have paid. Send written confirmation of your cancellation to the sales manager. Although you don’t have any written proof that you were told you could change your mind, you should spell out in your letter that you are not impressed with their sales tactics. Eventually, they should give up and agree to cancel your order.

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    Matt

    Hello Stuart,

    I wonder if you might be able to help/advise.

    I ordered a VW Passat in June, which was due for delivery late August/early September.
    As you may have heard, VW had issues with the part supply for these cars, so the order was delayed.

    I am now in a position where my current lease vehicle needs to be returned and I’m faced with the possibility of having to back out of the lease deal in order to find a stock alternative elsewhere (as I HAVE to be mobile for work).

    The dealer I ordered through was very slack and I haven’t signed an order form OR paid any deposit. All they have is an email confirming that I’d like to order the car.

    Do you think I can simply say “thanks for your efforts but I’m going elsewhere” due to their incompetence at the initial order stage, or is the email all they require to hold me to the lease?

    Thanks for any advice you may be able to give!

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    Margaret wright

    Please can you advise , my granddaughter entered in a lease agreement , and paid a£200 deposit . She now has changed her mind , dits on lay been 2days . Does she get a cooling off period. With thanks

    • #106032 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Margaret. It will depend who she has paid a deposit to and what it was for. If it was to a dealership or a broker, then probably not. If it was directly to the finance company, then she probably can.

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    jon

    Hello,
    I was looking at leasing a new van and wanted a few extras fitting. I paid the deposit but when I got the full finance agreement didn’t like the terms and backed out immediately. They are now saying I owe them an extra £660.
    Apparently I’m the only person in the UK that’s wants a sporline bumper on a new VW transporter.
    They also wouldn’t send over a finance agreement until I signed the spec sheet. How can this be legal?

    • #106179 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Jon. It’s very normal for a finance company not to produce a finance agreement until you have a formal order form. As long as the numbers on the agreement match up to what you’ve been quoted, there’s nothing wrong with that.

      Once you sign a vehicle order form, you are legally committing to buying the vehicle. If you have paid a deposit, the dealer is within their rights to withhold it (unless it’s an unreasonably large deposit). For more information, have a read of our article about buying a car and then changing your mind.

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    Craig Berry

    Not sure if anybody can help, similar to the above, I have found a lease vehicle online (VW Golf) and have since sent VW a proposal form, which detailed my name, employment history and bank details. I did not have to sign the document.

    I sent this document in to the VW dealer who has since said a car will be available to me at the end of March 2017.

    I have since changed my mind about leasing, I have not paid a deposit or been asked for once in advance, the deal was 3×23 (660 first payment, 220 for 23 months).

    If I email the dealer and say I am no longer in a position to lease the vehicle, can they do anything to me financially i.e take money or affect my credit?

    Thanks
    Craig

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    steve stuart

    Hi I was hit extremely hard today on very minor damage to a 2 year business leased car, to the order of £1023.63p, We only took control of the new car today and quite frankly feel ripped off by Nissan Finance so I have politely asked if I have a 14 day cooling off period as they can have the new one back as we are too scared to damn drive it without cotton wool wrapped around it?

    Thanks

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    steve stuart

    Sorry My question was ” can I tell them to take my new business car back” as I do not want to be ripped off again at the 3 year point of returning the vehicle again? I only signed the finance today and believe a 14 DAY cooling off period may be in place?
    thanks
    Steve

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    James Matthews

    Hi Stuart,

    We ordered a car direct from dealer on a lease plan. Estimated delivery 15 July. Now been pushed back to early August. We are not very happy obviously and they offered us £100 worth of accessories.

    I’ve argued they should offer more, like SatNav and heated seats but they don’t seem interested. They took £750 deposit.

    Then they said even if they could they can’t do anything yet as a certain date had passed in late June which means no changes can be made to the car at all. Nothing, at all.

    Are they being truthful? Who has the upper hand. I want to threaten to walk away, but am concerned they will just say ok and cancel, even though we have been waiting for months for the car.

    Please can you let me know what you think asap.

    Thanks a lot

    James

    • #117147 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi James. Your vehicle sales agreement should have relevant T&Cs that set out the deadline for a dealer to deliver the car (usually within 28 days of the date indicated). If the dealer cannot supply on time as per the agreement, you can cancel the contract for a full refund.

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    vaughan

    Hi Stuart. I purchased a 55 plate Volkswagen Passat with 60000mil 19 months ago on HP and 3 weeks ago the OIL Pressure light came on. I was uplifted to the garage and found the engine damaged due to a failed oil pump.

    I have spoken with MOTO NOT INTERESTED NOVO and they are not interested in helping me. I still have over 2.6 years finance to pay back and cannot afford to get another. Is there some opt out clause someone is aware of.

    Now I was not aware that there was a fault but all the VW forums I have seen is that VW know this as a fault but never done anything to rectify this

    • #117468 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Vaughan. You have a 11-12 year-old car that has worked fine for more than 18 months since you bought it. The finance company will certainly not be interested in helping you, and there is nothing in the Consumer Rights Act that is likely to assist.

      Cars can fail and break down, and they can be expensive to fix outside of warranty. After 60,000 miles and 12 years, it would be very difficult to prove to a court that the car is faulty or not fit for purpose.

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    Art

    Hi
    I have 2 quotes for a Mercedes A-Class, one company is slightly cheaper but has a £180 “ORDER PROCESSING FEE” which I read as “RANDOM EXCUSE to SQUEEZE MORE CASH OUT OF ME”.

    My question is this Stuart – if i kick up a fuss will they drop the fee?

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    David

    Hi,

    I placed an order for an Audi A3 on July 4th. At the time I was told the delivery usually takes 6-8 weeks so I should have it no later than the end of August. I explained that this was ok for me but any later then it doesn’t suit me as my current car is basically not in driving condition any more.

    Fast forward to the beginning of August and I get a generic email saying the new estimated delivery date is 20th September! I called to cancel but I was told that by the time I had ordered a different car, the turnaround would probably be mid September anyway…so I reluctantly agreed to wait.

    Today I’ve received a further generic email saying it’ll now be 27th October. Am I within my rights to cancel this order? I have paid £500 up front (£200 admin fee and £300 security deposit). I feel as if I’ve been deliberately mislead and they knew at the time I needed a car in around 6-8 weeks.

    It’s a personal car lease btw. Just looking for some advice. Have they breached our agreement?

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    Megan

    Hi, I ordered my car back in July but the company have been delaying for a while and I threatened to cancel recently. They’ve suddenly got back to me saying that the car is now in transit and should be here within 3/4 weeks.

    My question is; would I still be able to cancel my contract now? The delay has put me off and I’ve had a change of heart. Instead of taking this new car on lease, my partner & I were going to share cars for a while and save money instead of paying for 2 cars.

    Would I be liable for the full costs, even though they’ve delayed over a month?

    • #119724 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
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      Hi Megan. It will depend on what your contract says. Usually there is a clause about how long the dealer is allowed to delay you before you can cancel the contract and get your money back (usually about 28 days after the advised delivery date).

  • #119466 Reply
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    Andy

    Hi Stuart, I got a used 2015 Vw golf 24/12/16 on a 4 year lease hire. I got a service done last Thursday, drove 10 miles and the oil pressure light came on. I called Vw straight away and they told me to bring it straight back. On the way back it went into limp mode, I pulled over and called them again and they told me to stay put and they will call for a recovery,they have had the car a few days and told me that it was fitted with a defected part when it was serviced by their mechanics and the engine was not repairable so would require a new engine. Do I have any right to refuse the car back and any right to a part refund?

    • #119725 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
      Keymaster

      Hi Andy. You are outside the six-month window for rejecting the vehicle with the support of the Consumer Rights Act. You can potentially still reject the vehicle outside this window, especially if they have advised that defective parts were fitted, but you’ll need good legal assistance to help you with it.

  • #119919 Reply
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    John

    Hi everyone.

    I ordered a vehicle seven days ago. I signed an agency agreement which states that delivery will be approximately two weeks. I’m still awaiting the lease agreement.

    When returning the signed agency agreement, I was told to expect the lease agreement within 48 hours. I chased after 48 hours and was told that the computer system was down. Later that afternoon I was told that the delay was due to the DVLA not releasing registration numbers and that the agent would chase it after the weekend (Monday, yesterday) and get back to me.

    They didn’t. I chased it again, today, Tuesday and was told that the dealer was still unable to register the car and therefore the lease agreement could not be created.

    I rang the DVLA this afternoon and was told that they were unaware of any delays in registering vehicles and that they were very well prepared for the September rush.

    I notified my intention to cancel on the grounds that no progress had been made and that no lease agreement has been signed. I was messed around by another broker two years ago for a full five weeks and I’m determined that it will not happen again. I can get a one year old car on PCP elsewhere in the space of a morning.

    The agent then informs me that the car will miraculously almost certainly be registered tomorrow (Wednesday) and that delivery will therefore be achievable by next Tuesday or sooner. They then remind me that there will of course be fees payable if I decide to cancel – up to three installments as set out on the agency agreement.

    I have a company but have leased this in my own name in order to avoid benefit in kind.

    Is a cancellation fee enforceable considering the Consumer Contracts Regulations?

    I appreciate that two weeks start-finish is optimistic in September – however – I did not suggest two weeks as being realistic, they did.

    John.

  • #120121 Reply
    Stuart Masson
    Stuart Masson

    Hi John. There’s nothing unrealistic about a two-week delivery timeframe on a new car if it is in stock. Dealers work frantically to get cars turned around as quickly as possible in March and September, so they’re used to it.
    In terms of any cancellation fees payable, it will depend on what your contract says and whether the broker/leasing company has broken the contract. Often the broker will blame the leasing company or the dealership, and it can be very difficult to prove anything.

  • #144180 Reply
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    Olivia

    Hello,

    I signed an order form for a personal lease car. 10 days later they have contacted to say that the provider claims my credit score is too low and I have too many previous addresses. I was previously a student but have a good credit score with no debt or outstanding payments.
    The broker has sent me a new order form/quote to sign.
    The broker has a £360 admin fee and a £1500 cancellation fee.
    Am I still liable for the cancellation fee even though they have increased the price?

    Many thanks,
    Olivia

    • #144335 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
      Keymaster

      Hi Olivia. If the broker cannot maintain a written quotation they provided to you, you should be entitled to your money back.
      You can argue that they are not honouring the contract rather than you changing your mind. However, it may depend on the nature of the T&Cs of your contract, as the broker isn’t actually providing either the car or the finance.

  • #147768 Reply
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    Wendy

    Hi Stuart, I have not signed any Financial documents as of yet. Only the companies order form. I have now gone elsewhere as the initial payment was extremely high. I notified the original company of this, to which they cam back with better offer that still did not match the second offer.
    I cancelled with the Financial company before signing any documents. No monies have been exchanged. Only an order form signed. This has all been done within the 14 day cooling off period.
    They are now saying that a cancellation fee of 1200 should be paid. This was in the small print, but at no time during our email conversations was this brought my attention. Otherwise I would not have gone elsewhere. Are they allowed to stop you going elsewhere if you have only signed the order form?
    Please advise.
    Regards
    Wendy.

  • #147991 Reply
    Stuart Masson
    Stuart Masson
    Keymaster

    Hi Wendy. If you are talking about an order with a broker, you’re bound by the contract as you haven’t actually bought a car. If the contract states there is a £1,200 cancellation fee then you can bet that they will pursue this vigorously.

  • #149703 Reply
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    Zane

    Hey stuart,

    I got a PCP leased car on my company name on the 16th of November, on the 13th of December the car broke down and the technicians said it was a problem with the battery. Since the car was brand new I told the Audi assist to send it back to the dealership and told them I wish to reject this vehicle as it had a manufacturing defect. In this time the dealership rang me to explain that they wish to repair the battery or replace it. I told them I do not wish for the battery to be fixed and that I do not want this vehicle, as it made me feel unsafe. I spoke to Audi finance who are the leasing company they rang me yesterday saying that the car is now repaired and that I have no right to reject the vehicle. Where do I stand in terms of rejection?

    Thanking you Zane

  • #150370 Reply
    Stuart Masson
    Stuart Masson
    Keymaster

    Hi Zane. A battery is a pretty simple and easy fix, so if that cures the problem then you wouldn’t really have grounds to reject the overall vehicle as faulty.

    The dealership and/or finance company is not obliged to accept your rejection. If you want to pursue the matter, you’ll need to take legal advice and either go to the Motor Ombudsman or to court.

  • #151192 Reply
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    Dave

    Hi Stuart,

    I signed a business lease for a car and requested to cancel the order in less that 24 hours from signing, I haven’t paid anything to them and I was told that the admin fee would need to be paid before the order could progress. The admin fee was not paid.
    The broker is now requesting payment of £2000 to cancel the order. Can they legally enforce this due to it being a business lease?

    Regards Dave

    • #151538 Reply
      Stuart Masson
      Stuart Masson
      Keymaster

      Hi Dave. You’ll need to look at the T&Cs of your contract, or get a lawyer to assist you.

      A contract with a broker will be for their services in arranging the lease of a car from a dealer and finance company on your behalf, so they will argue that their service has been provided regardless of whether you no longer want the car.

  • #152512 Reply
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    Helen

    Hi Stuart,

    I signed an order form for a Personal Contract Hire agreement with Mazda about two months ago (before Christmas). Due to a change in circumstances (including the car being delivered just under a month later than they originally told me, but still within 28 days of the original estimate), I am now wanting to cancel the agreement. No money has changed hands, and there is no mention in the terms and conditions on the document they sent about me being liable for any money if I choose to cancel the agreement. Do you think it likely I will have to pay anything?

    Many thanks,
    Helen

  • #170175 Reply
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    Nigel

    Hi Stuart,

    I signed a Personal Contract Hire Order order form with an online lease broker and paid a £300 deposit for the car. I haven’t signed any other documents or received a delivery date for the vehicle.

    The lease cost for the same vehicle has reduced significantly since I placed the order however the broker has said that they cannot do the lower price for me because they already accepted my order at the higher price. If I cancel the order (and lease the vehicle via a different broker), there is a £300 cancellation charge. I don’t expect to get my deposit back but I don’t want to also pay a cancellation charge when I haven’t received the vehicle or even signed any finance documents. Is the cancellation fee enforceable and if so, how would they go about getting it from me?

    Thanks

    Nigel

  • #170564 Reply
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    Andrew

    Hi Stuart ,

    I was looking for some advice I signed an order form 1 day ago, the salesmen has basically told several white lies along the way , it’s a 5 year lease and he said I would be able to get out at 4 years , he has since changed his tune and said I’d have to buy out at year 4 . He said there would be no issue adding sports bars later but these require drilling into the body , he insisted this wouldn’t be an issue but I’m concerned at the end of lease I will be left with a hefty bill.
    I asked when the new model was out he said not until next summer 2020 turns out it’s out in 2 months .

    I hadn’t yet decided which transmission I was going with so I know he hasn’t officially ordered the vehicle although finance has been agreed.

    The paperwork I have is extremely vague , no spec on it not even the annual mileage allowance etc simply the colour the model and price.

    I have major concerns now over this as after speaking with a couple of other branches they have all confirmed this was all false and was just to get us to sign the order form .

    I was wandering where I stand with this ?should I be able to cancel ?

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